{"id":218,"date":"2008-07-22T01:35:14","date_gmt":"2008-07-22T09:35:14","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.oeconomist.com\/blogs\/daniel\/?p=218"},"modified":"2009-09-23T20:59:55","modified_gmt":"2009-09-24T04:59:55","slug":"things-fall-apart","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.oeconomist.com\/blogs\/daniel\/?p=218","title":{"rendered":"Things Fall Apart"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I've been looking at background discussion on <a href=\"http:\/\/www.wikipedia.org\/\">Wikipedia<\/a>, and it seems to be doing a fair job of tearing itself to shreds.<\/p> <p>There is a set of intertangled disputes involving two camps.  <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration\/C68-FM-SV\">The Request for Arbitration to which I earlier linked<\/a> seems to be illustrative; it's certainly not the only example.  See also <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard\/Incidents\/Tony_Sidaway#Break:_checkuser\">Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard\/Incidents\/Tony Sidaway<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration\/SlimVirgin-Lar\">the resulting request for <em>more<\/em> arbitration.<\/a> &#91;(2008:07\/24) I have up-dated the previous link.&#93;<\/p> <p>The <em>requests<\/em> for arbitration between these camps don't seem to be producing <em>actual<\/em> arbitration, even when the Arbitration Committee had earlier agreed to take a case.  <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/w\/index.php?title=User_talk%3AFT2&diff=225428105&oldid=225391438\">The Arbitration Committee is beginning to be hammered for failing to reach <em>any<\/em> decisions in that case to which I earlier linked.<\/a>  <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/w\/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3ARequests_for_arbitration%2FC68-FM-SV%2FProposed_decision&diff=224555537&oldid=223234937\">One member of the Arbitration Committee is trying to get the others to agree to just dismiss the case<\/a>, but the Committee isn't even deciding to flee from responsibility. (<a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_arbitration\/C68-FM-SV\/Proposed_decision#ArbCom_MfD_-_Notification_of_intent_to_seek_abolition_of_the_Arbitration_Committee_in_the_event_that_the_motion_to_dismiss_is_successful\">There are grumblings that the Arbitration Committee should be abolished if it <em>does<\/em> flee.<\/a>)<\/p> <p>Now, as to that case, I'm not sufficiently informed to <em>condemn all<\/em> of the parties, nor to <em>exonerate any<\/em> of the parties, but I am sufficiently informed to identify the behavior of <em>some<\/em> of the parties as egregious.  And those parties all happen to be in <em>one<\/em> of those two camps, which camp has strongly allied itself with Jimmy Donal Wales &mdash; that's right, the <q>Jimbo<\/q> Wales who provided the funding that launched <a href=\"http:\/\/www.wikipedia.org\/\">Wikipedia<\/a>, the <q>Jimbo<\/q> Wales who reserved the general right to over-turn any decision of the Arbitration Committee.<\/p> <p>If the Arbitration Committee fails to come down on those parties <em>hard<\/em>, then those parties are going to become even more out-of-hand, and the committee will lose a lot of respect all-around (though one camp may <em>prize<\/em> them as fine <em>toad-eaters<\/em>).  On the other hand, if the Arbitration Committee <em>does<\/em> come down on those parties, then they may alienate <q>Jimbo<\/q> Wales, who may even over-rule their decisions or so weaken the measures taken that they become not so much <em>meaningless<\/em> as <em>ironic<\/em>.<\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"I've been looking at background discussion on Wikipedia, and it seems to be doing a fair job of tearing itself to shreds. There is a set of intertangled disputes involving two camps. The Request for Arbitration to which I earlier linked seems to be illustrative; it's certainly not the only example. 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