{"id":1381,"date":"2009-02-28T02:11:29","date_gmt":"2009-02-28T10:11:29","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.oeconomist.com\/blogs\/daniel\/?p=1381"},"modified":"2023-08-28T01:35:14","modified_gmt":"2023-08-28T08:35:14","slug":"and-we-all-feel-the-claws","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.oeconomist.com\/blogs\/daniel\/?p=1381","title":{"rendered":"And We All Feel the Claws"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>As most or all of you have read or heard by now, the economic news for the the last quarter of 2008 was quite bad <div style=\"padding: 1em ; padding-bottom: 1em ;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/news.bbc.co.uk\/2\/hi\/business\/7915040.stm\"><q>US economy suffers sharp nosedive<\/q> from the <abbr title=\"British Broadcasting Corporation\">BBC<\/abbr><\/a> <blockquote style=\"font-size: smaller ;\">The US economy shrank by 6.2% in the last three months of 2008, official figures have shown, a far sharper fall than had previously been reported.<br \/><br \/>Plunging exports and the biggest fall in consumer spending in 28 years dragged the annualised figure down from an earlier estimate of 3.8%.<\/blockquote><\/div> and the news from the stock market has grown worse <div style=\"padding: 1em ; padding-bottom: 0 ;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/online.wsj.com\/article\/SB123573389322793621.html\"><q>Brutal February for Blue Chips<\/q> by Peter A. McKay at <cite>the Wall Street Journal<\/cite><\/a> <blockquote style=\"font-size: smaller ;\">The Dow Jones Industrial Average dropped 119.15 points, or 1.7%, to end at 7062.93. The blue-chip benchmark ended down 937.93 points, or 11.72% on the month &mdash; the worst percentage drop for February since 1933, when it fell 15.62%. The Dow industrials have fallen six months in a row and are now more than 50% off their record highs hit in October of 2007.<\/blockquote><\/div><\/p> <p>Now <cite>the New York Times<\/cite> frets <div style=\"padding: 1em ; padding-bottom: 1em ;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2009\/02\/28\/business\/economy\/28recession.html\"><q>Sharper Downturn Clouds Obama Spending Plans<\/q> by Peter S. Goodman<\/a> <blockquote style=\"font-size: smaller ;\">The economy is spiraling down at an accelerating pace, threatening to undermine the Obama administration\u2019s spending plans, which anticipate vigorous rates of growth in years to come.<\/blockquote><\/div> Of course, if they <em>believed<\/em> the na&iuml;ve Keynesian rhetoric that has come back into political fashion, then the claim would be that Obama's aggressive spending plans were <em>insufficiently<\/em> ambitious.<\/p> <p>I'm wondering whether it's merely the so-far unpassed budget that is under threat.  <a href=\"?p=1310\">As I noted earlier<\/a>, the <q>stimulus<\/q> bill is an enormous <em>blow<\/em> to the economy, and was passed only as a result of some combination of willful blindness, knavish exploitation of a crisis in which politicians did not actually believe, and desire to worsen things on the expectation that even greater expansion of state power could be achieved.  In the case of all three of these motivations, one could expect some politicians to now regret what they have done in passing the bill; what seemed like a bearable amount of plunder may now seem like a grave miscalculation.  I don't think that it's politically possible that the legislature would overtly repeal the stimulus bill, let alone that the Obama Administration would openly reverse itself.  But subsequent legislation might <em>implicitly<\/em> pare some of the programmes, and a formula might even be found for the Administration to <q>suspend<\/q> some programmes without legislative action.<\/p> <p>Of course, the Administration and the Democrats in Congress know that, if they repealed a significant share of the <q>stimulus<\/q> bill even obliquely, then their opponents would <em>pounce<\/em> on how this repeal demonstrated that it were not a <em>stimulus<\/em> bill.  So those who supported the bill may have a tiger by the tail.<\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"As most or all of you have read or heard by now, the economic news for the the last quarter of 2008 was quite bad US economy suffers sharp nosedive from the BBC The US economy shrank by 6.2% in the last three months of 2008, official figures have shown, a far sharper fall than [&hellip;]","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_bbp_topic_count":0,"_bbp_reply_count":0,"_bbp_total_topic_count":0,"_bbp_total_reply_count":0,"_bbp_voice_count":0,"_bbp_anonymous_reply_count":0,"_bbp_topic_count_hidden":0,"_bbp_reply_count_hidden":0,"_bbp_forum_subforum_count":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[6,36,9,104,4],"tags":[135,538,516,45,144,514],"class_list":["post-1381","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-commentary","category-economics","category-ideology-philosophy","category-news","category-public","tag-barack-obama","tag-budget","tag-economic-depression","tag-obama","tag-recession","tag-stimulus-bill"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.oeconomist.com\/blogs\/daniel\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1381","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.oeconomist.com\/blogs\/daniel\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.oeconomist.com\/blogs\/daniel\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.oeconomist.com\/blogs\/daniel\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.oeconomist.com\/blogs\/daniel\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=1381"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/www.oeconomist.com\/blogs\/daniel\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1381\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":12158,"href":"https:\/\/www.oeconomist.com\/blogs\/daniel\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1381\/revisions\/12158"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.oeconomist.com\/blogs\/daniel\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=1381"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.oeconomist.com\/blogs\/daniel\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=1381"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.oeconomist.com\/blogs\/daniel\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=1381"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}